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User:Magnus Manske - Unauthorized bot
[edit]This user probably makes automated edits with bot, even though he has a separate account User:File Upload Bot (Magnus Manske), uploading images, which some are in poor quality and when better quality is accessible from source page. Example: File:Friedrich_Niethammer_-_niethammer_ankernder.jpg, 200 × 147 (12 KB), but when I download this image from source web page (https://www.artnet.com/WebServices/images/ll00242lldbeYGFgpbo72CfDrCWvaHBOcpXYC/friedrich-niethammer-ankernder-kurenkahn.jpg) it is 637 x 470, 101 KB. Please check this. 87.205.173.49 21:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Did you discuss this with Magnus previously? Why not? Andy Dingley (talk) 21:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- User:Magnus Manske was not notified, and this particular issue could have been solved by discussing this with him. Abzeronow (talk) 21:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- The user also let too many notices build up on his user talk page. It is rather difficult to navigate & edit, and includes too many templates such that MediaWiki can't handle displaying it, causing inclusion in Category:User talk pages where template include size is exceeded and a situation in which templates do not not work at the bottom. Some old browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kB. I noticed this while cleaning up Category:Incomplete deletion requests - missing subpage due to his edits - see the categories I referred to at the bottom. He also seems inattentive to such notices. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:57, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- All I see from you is #invoke:Autotranslate on my talk page. The categories were accidental duplicates. I have been running a script that gets images from auction houses. This has been fine-tuned over time as initially it had many not-quite-sufficient-information files. The script has now run though, and I will only use it to "top up" occasionally (eg new yead, new public domain). --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Magnus Manske: Hopefully, those sections should be visible there tomorrow after ArchiverBot runs (starting 07:45 UTC). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- ... and they are, along with Special:Diff/974904386, in which you admitted to using a bot on your main account. Please stop that. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Magnus Manske: Hopefully, those sections should be visible there tomorrow after ArchiverBot runs (starting 07:45 UTC). — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- All I see from you is #invoke:Autotranslate on my talk page. The categories were accidental duplicates. I have been running a script that gets images from auction houses. This has been fine-tuned over time as initially it had many not-quite-sufficient-information files. The script has now run though, and I will only use it to "top up" occasionally (eg new yead, new public domain). --Magnus Manske (talk) 15:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Again User:Finoskov
[edit]Finoskov (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
After the end of his first blocking he continued his behavior, to a greater extent than before. I think he has not recognized his mistakes. He wrote a comment with his signature in a template. See here.
Last weekend I spent many hours correcting errors which he made in the Mulhouse Museum categories. I only did the decades from 1870 to 1930. This week he ruined the work. Of course, he did not engage in any discussion on any of the points.
Now he obviously tried to solve one of the problems with "of the Musée" instead of "in the Musée". But he still put these categories under categories "in museum". That cannot be right!
Two points:
- 20 Reverts. Last weekend I had made changes (from wrong to right) and written edit comments. He made reverts (from right to wrong) without comments. That doesn't work! Examples: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20. With a closer look: Often I removed the category in this museum. Sometimes he made exact revert, ignoring that some pictures were not made in this museum. Sometimes he added the category of the museum, ignoring that (example) Category:1920s automobiles of the Musée National de l'Automobile cannot be a subcategory of Category:1920s automobiles in museums because some pictures were not made in museums. I don't know if it's okay to press the revert button to make a hidden change. It looks like an attempt at deception for me. This must be multiple misuse of revert.
- He didn't move categories properly. He created new ones, moved the content from the old ones to the new ones, and made quick deleting requests on the old ones. Example: old Category:Panhard & Levassor Type X29 Sport 20 torpedo (M.N.A.2213) 1920-30 (chassis 8 156) and new Category:Panhard & Levassor 20 CV Sport Type X29 Labourdette torpedo (M.N.A.2213) 1920-30. He also simply blanked the category discussion page, see here. This carries the risk that the discussion page will be deleted together with the category. This must be misuse of blanking talk page and misuse of Commons:Rename a category. Other examples: 1870s, 1880s, 1890s, 1900s, 1910s, 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s.
I request: A block for a longer period than the first time. If possible and usual on Commons: A ban for specific areas for a long time. Perhaps for the areas of creating categories, moving categories, renaming categories, emptying categories, suggesting for quick category deletions, changing main categories or subcategories, and reverts. Or generally for everything to do with vehicles or vehicle museums. Buch-t (talk) 07:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Buch-t: I am sympathetic, but not all of the above edits look at all obviously wrong. For example, at [1]: what exactly is wrong with adding each of the following to Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118)? Please reply under the respective bullet points for any where you think I have it wrong.
- Category:Alfa Romeo automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- Redundant to Category:Schlumpf collection (Alfa Romeo), I agree this is wrong.
- There are 8 subcategories. In Category:Alfa Romeo Type 8C 2 900 A coach (M.N.A.1115) 1936 (chassis 412 004) are pictures made at Mondial de l’Automobile de Paris in Paris, not in the museum. In Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118) and their subcategory Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118) with original bodywork and their subcategories Category:1938 Mille Miglia car number 141 and Category:1948 Targa Florio car number 51 are only pictures made 1938 at Mille Miglia (race in Italy) and made 1948 at Targa Florio (race in Italy), not in the museum. In Category:Alfa Romeo Type 8C 2 900 A coach (M.N.A.1115) 1936 (chassis 412 004) are pictures made at Mondial de l’Automobile de Paris, not in the museum. --Buch-t (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redundant to Category:Schlumpf collection (Alfa Romeo), I agree this is wrong.
- Category:1930s automobiles of the Musée National de l'Automobile
- Other than the slightly oddly named category (I would use "in" or "in the collection of", not "of"), this appears correct. What is wrong?
- "in museum" must be "seen in the museum". He tried to create "of museum" for vehicles belonging to the museum, no matter where they were photographed. It is possible to make "of museum" but when there are pictures made elsewhere it is not possible to put the whole category under the main category "in this museum". In some subcategories like Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118)/Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118) with original bodywork/Category:1938 Mille Miglia car number 141 and Category:1948 Targa Florio car number 51; Category:1930s Mercedes-Benz automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile/Category:Mercedes-Benz type W 154 II "Silberpfeil" (M.N.A.1601) 1939 (made in Kassel, Germany); Category:1930s Bugatti automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile/Category:Bugatti Type 41 Napoleon coupe (M.N.A.0911) 1930 (chassis 41-100b) are pictures made outside the museum. --Buch-t (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Other than the slightly oddly named category (I would use "in" or "in the collection of", not "of"), this appears correct. What is wrong?
- Category:1937 automobiles in museums
- Appears correct
- Not all cars in the subcategories where photographed "in museums". Examples as before. --Buch-t (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Appears correct
- Category:Musée National de l'Automobile - Mulhouse (racing automobiles)
- Does not obviously appear wrong.
- Not all cars in the subcategories where photographed "in this museum". Examples: Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118) and Category:Mercedes-Benz type W 154 II "Silberpfeil" (M.N.A.1601) 1939 (made in Kassel, Germany). --Buch-t (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Does not obviously appear wrong.
- Category:Alfa Romeo automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- So for this edit, I see one pretty obviously correct change, one other that looks correct, one other that is not a well-named category but looks otherwise correct, and one that is, indeed COM:OVERCAT. If that is typical, this does not suggest high competence on Finoskov's part, but is not usually the sort of thing over which someone gets blocked.
- It is really hard to go through a laundry list like the one you posted above and try to work out whether someone's edits or good, bad, or (as it appears from this one) somewhere in between. This took me over 5 minutes just to evaluate on edit in an area where I don't normally work and it came up "not great, not awful." I would much rather see you take 3-5 specific edits of his that you think are wrong and break them down like I did above. In other words: if this is what you want us to look at, please do the heavy lifting yourself instead of making an admin spend an hour on working out whether you are correct.
- As for the category moves: yes, that is very wrong, and might merit a block all on its own, especially if he won't promise to stop. - Jmabel ! talk 17:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I followed up on that last (about the category moves) at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Finoskov&diff=prev&oldid=973625389. - Jmabel ! talk 17:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I will give more details of 3-5 specific edits tomorrow (European time). --Buch-t (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- More details to the first 5 reverts.
- 1. In this category and subcategories are only historic pictures made 1938 and 1948 during car races in Italy, not in the museum Mulhouse in France. He added:
- Category:Alfa Romeo automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- No picture made in the museum.
- Category:1930s automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile (now Category:1930s automobiles of the Musée National de l'Automobile)
- No picture made in the museum. No actual picture since the car is in the property of the museum.
- Category:1937 automobiles in museums
- No picture made in the museum.
- Category:Musée National de l'Automobile - Mulhouse (racing automobiles)
- No picture made in the museum. No actual picture since the car is in the property of the museum.
- Category:Alfa Romeo automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- 2. He added:
- Category:Alfa Romeo automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- There are 7 subcategories. In the fourth (category:Alfa Romeo Type 8C 2 900 A coach (M.N.A.1115) 1936 (chassis 412 004)) are pictures made at the Mondial de l'Automobile (Paris Motor Show). In the sixth (Category:Alfa-Romeo type 8C 2,9 B biplace course (M.N.A. 1118)) are only historical pictures made 1938 and 1948 in Italy.
- Category:Alfa Romeo automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- 3. There are 331 subcategories and 26 pictures. He added:
- Category:Vehicles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- Several pictures were not made in the Musée National. Like File:Rochet Schneider 14 18.JPG, some of the Alfa Romeo mentioned above, Category:Ballot 3/8 LC biplace de course (Musée National de l'Automobile), Category:Ballot Type 2 L TS Weymann berline (MNA1316) 1925 (chassis 3 570), Category:Bugatti prototype 68 B roadster (M.N.A.0608) 1942, Category:Hispano-Suiza J12 Kellner Coupé-Chauffeur (M.N.A.1706) 1934 (chassis 13 035) and so on.
- category:Objets monuments historiques in Haut-Rhin (vehicles)
- The same pictures were not made in the region Haut-Rhin.
- Category:Objets monuments historiques in Mulhouse
- The same pictures were not made in Mulhouse.
- Category:Vehicles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- 4. 11 subcategories. He added:
- Category:Peugeot automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- In the second (Category:Peugeot type 16 fiacre (M.N.A.1401) 1898) are pictures made in Kassel, Germany. In the eleventh (Category:Peugeot Type 174 Labourdette coach (M.N.A.1413) 1924 (chassis 35 446)) are pictures made at Paris Motor Show in Paris.
- Category:Peugeot automobiles in France
- In the second (Category:Peugeot type 16 fiacre (M.N.A.1401) 1898) are pictures made in Kassel, Germany.
- Category:Peugeot automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- 5. 90 subcategories. He added:
- Category:Bugatti automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- Category:Bugatti Type 251 Formula 1 (M.N.A.0510) 1955 (chassis 251-002) All pictures were made in the Museum in Kassel. Some of Category:Bugatti Prototype 28 torpedo (M.N.A.0310) 1921 (chassis 5001) were made at Retromobile (Show for old cars) in Paris. One picture in Category:Bugatti Type 40 camionnette (M.N.A.0707) 1929 (chassis 40-811) was made 1929 in Paris, long before the opening of the museum in Mulhouse. Some pictures in Category:Bugatti Type 41 Napoleon coupe (M.N.A.0911) 1930 (chassis 41-100b) were made at Retromobile in Paris. None of the pictures in Category:Bugatti Type 43 Grand Sport 1928 (chassis 43-258) were made in the Museum in Mulhouse. Category:Bugatti type 46 cabriolet Dolce (M.N.A.1003) 1934 (chassis 46-555) were photographed in Kassel. In Category:Bugatti Type 55 roadster Super-Sport (M.N.A.0601) 1932 (chassis 55-215) some pictures were made at Mondial de l'automobile and at Retromobile. In Category:Bugatti Type 57 SC Ghia Aigle coach (M.N.A.0910) 1937 (chassis 57-561) there is one historic picture made in Switzerland, not made in the museum. In Category:Bugatti type 59/50 B single-seater Grand Prix (M.N.A.0504) chassis 50-180 there are pictures made at Retromobile. Category:Bugatti prototype 68 B roadster (M.N.A.0608) 1942 were photographed in Kassel.
- Category:Bugatti automobiles in the Musée National de l'Automobile
- 1. In this category and subcategories are only historic pictures made 1938 and 1948 during car races in Italy, not in the museum Mulhouse in France. He added:
- More details to the first 5 reverts.
- I have visited the museum in Mulhouse and also the 3-month-exhibition in the museum in Kassel, Germany.
- Remember: I wrote edit comments when I deleted wrong categories. He wrote nothing when he reverted me. --Buch-t (talk) 08:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Finoskov: all of this looks very wrong on your part, especially putting way too broad categories under particular museums that might have an exemplar.
- Blocks are intended to be preventive, rather than punitive. If you promise to stop this now, and you do stop, I see no need for a block. If you persist, I would advocate either a 3-month block now, to be turned into a year-long block if you come back and do this again, or a complete topic ban from anything about automobiles. - Jmabel ! talk 18:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Finoskov wrote on his talk page that he cannot understand your English words. --Buch-t (talk) 08:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Apparently Finoskov feels competent to override others' decisions about prepositions in English, but does not understand enough English to follow what I'm saying. Also apparently, he believes that the overhead of a cat redirect is something comparable to, for example, downloading images.
- French is about my fifth or sixth language, which is to say I can read it moderately well, but certainly cannot express myself in it significantly better than a Google Translate rendition of my English. @Ruthven: I know you are quite comfortable in both English and French, can you possibly take over this situation, or let me know that you can't so I can look for someone else to ask? - Jmabel ! talk 08:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I translated your message. Hopefully, the pretext of not understanding English won't be used now. Yann (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Yann for the translation. I find worrisome that Finoskov sees your message as an "attack", when it's just a warning about a behaviour. Jmabel, would a partial block on the categories ns suffice? Ruthven (msg) 14:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ruthven and Yann: do what you think best. My request to bring in another admin was not strictly a language issue. After my entirely appropriate warning was described as vos attaques, and after what I agree was almost certainly a "pretense" of not understanding me, I was livid enough to impose a long, long block. I figured it should be left to someone else to handle this, because acting out of anger is not generally a great thing to do. - Jmabel ! talk 19:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't look into the details of the case. I will do it later unless someone else block Finoskov first. Yann (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Ruthven and Yann: do what you think best. My request to bring in another admin was not strictly a language issue. After my entirely appropriate warning was described as vos attaques, and after what I agree was almost certainly a "pretense" of not understanding me, I was livid enough to impose a long, long block. I figured it should be left to someone else to handle this, because acting out of anger is not generally a great thing to do. - Jmabel ! talk 19:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Yann for the translation. I find worrisome that Finoskov sees your message as an "attack", when it's just a warning about a behaviour. Jmabel, would a partial block on the categories ns suffice? Ruthven (msg) 14:50, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I translated your message. Hopefully, the pretext of not understanding English won't be used now. Yann (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Finoskov wrote on his talk page that he cannot understand your English words. --Buch-t (talk) 08:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
This user uploaded a bunch of random photos and categorized them into Category:2024 Magdeburg Christmas market attack with them not being directly connected to the attack and therefore misleading possible viewers. I tried to contact him on his talk page about it but haven't received any answer so far. I have tried to edit the corresponding pictures, but the user keeps reverting my changes. (ongoing deletion request with redundant pictures at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by User:C.Suthorn)
Examples: File:Magdeburg Impressionen 2024-12-21 143.jpg, File:Magdeburg Impressionen 2024-12-21 149.jpg, File:Magdeburg Impressionen 2024-12-21 022.jpg, File:Magdeburg Impressionen 2024-12-21 107.jpg, File:Magdeburg Impressionen 2024-12-21 017.jpg, File:Magdeburg Impressionen 2024-12-21 142.jpg. VECTRONATOR (talk) 11:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- ich bin gerade fertig geworden einige de-kategorisierungen zurückzusetzen. Begründungen dafür in den Edit-comments. Dass ich den DR für unsinnig halte, habe ich bereits dort geschrieben. Jetzt Wochenende. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 12:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dann sollten die Fotos aber in eine Unterkategorie Category:Magdeburg after 2024 Christmas market attack. Das erste komplette entfernen war ein Fehler, du hättest statt die alte Kategorie wieder hinzuzufügen aber die passende Unterkategorie anlegen können. GPSLeo (talk) 13:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes they should be recategorized, no this is not an administrative matter. - Jmabel ! talk 18:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel, what would be the best way if the user resets several times for some images that have nothing to do with the attack? I don't want to get caught up in an edit war, but some images can't stay in this category. Lukas Beck (talk) 20:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Probably a subcat along the lines of what Leo suggested above. For anything that doesn't show actual physical damage, I'd suggest a subcat Category:Aftermath of 2024 Magdeburg Christmas market attack. - Jmabel ! talk 00:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe it's a bit clumsy, but: If I drive to a city where something significant happened the day before and I take a photo of some statue in that city that had nothing to do with that event, except that maybe there was a police car there the day before drove by, then this image should not be sorted into any category or subcategory of that event at all. Lukas Beck (talk) 08:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Es kann sein, dass ich ein Bild versehentlich zweimal zurückgesetzt haben VECTRONATOR hat so schnell und ohne Edit-Komment editiert, das wurde sehr unübersichtlich und ich hatte - warum auch immer zu dem Zeitpunkt - nur langsames Internet. Das ganze wäre nicht nötig gewesen, wenn VECTRONATOR einfach die mehrfach erwähnte Unterkategorie angelegt hätte. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 18:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Probably a subcat along the lines of what Leo suggested above. For anything that doesn't show actual physical damage, I'd suggest a subcat Category:Aftermath of 2024 Magdeburg Christmas market attack. - Jmabel ! talk 00:42, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel, what would be the best way if the user resets several times for some images that have nothing to do with the attack? I don't want to get caught up in an edit war, but some images can't stay in this category. Lukas Beck (talk) 20:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes they should be recategorized, no this is not an administrative matter. - Jmabel ! talk 18:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dann sollten die Fotos aber in eine Unterkategorie Category:Magdeburg after 2024 Christmas market attack. Das erste komplette entfernen war ein Fehler, du hättest statt die alte Kategorie wieder hinzuzufügen aber die passende Unterkategorie anlegen können. GPSLeo (talk) 13:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
User:Giorgi Akhlouri
[edit]Giorgi Akhlouri (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log) is a new user uploading personal images (e.g. File:Giorgi Akhlouri.png) or copyrighted ones claiming they are his own just because he uses the same user name as the copyright visible. Furthermore, he uploads the same image in different format (e.g. File:KINGDOM OF IBERIA.png and File:Kingdom of Iberia.gif. He seems to reupload deleted images too, according to this and the list of his uploads. Finally, he seems to be doing the same kind of thing throughout all Wikis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Giorgi_Akhlouri) to propagate his uploads Pierre cb (talk) 04:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Last warning sent, should be blocked if continues, all files tagged or deleted. Yann (talk) 15:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Tuyotuyotinpoman1
[edit]Tuyotuyotinpoman1 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information) This user has uploading copyright violation, Also the File:Arty Huang (Arty亚缇) cosplay Bocchi - Bocchi The Rock (26).jpg with patreon watermark. 茅野ふたば (talk) 03:42, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not done No uploads since their initial warnings. Further copyvios will result in a block though. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 03:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Gullwing1 (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
- Numerous copyright violations. I'm not asking to block the user as they have not been previously warned before but rather delete the covers as there are too many files posted at once for me to reasonably add the templates. They are likely all copyright violations. Thank you.
Takipoint123 (💬) 05:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Update: Special:diff/975308679. User claims there is permission but I am yet to see permissions. @Gullwing1: pinging. Takipoint123 (💬) 05:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Last warning sent, all files deleted. Yann (talk) 10:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Does nothing but make sloppy deletion requests that are either full of snitty jokes or flat-out incomprehensible. Usually “right but for the wrong reasons”. Not here in good faith IMO. Dronebogus (talk) 16:16, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Not done Last and only edits were on 17 December 2024. There is no point to block it now. Yann (talk) 16:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
This user is trying to enforce his POV regarding the naming of sports club categories by force (see also: User talk:Mitte27#Category:FC Bayern Munich and its subcategories, Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/12/Category:FC Bayern Munich, Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 98#Category:FC Bayern München/Category:FC Bayern Munich and its subcategories). The specific occasion for this report is that he started a category-move war by moving the category Category:Polonia Warszawa to the English name. This category, like all of our categories for sports clubs, was originally created under the original (in this case Polish) name Polonia Warszawa, but was moved to the English name Polonia Warsaw by Eksperto in 2019 without any discussion ([2]). I recently reverted this because using the English name is against our common practice (I already have written that several times and proven there that our common practice here on Commons is to use the original proper name for sports clubs categories, not the English translation). And such controversial category renaming should not happen without a CfD, anyway (Mitte27 nows that, Jmabel already has told him that in the above linked first report 2,5 weeks ago). On December 15, Mitte27 then moved the category back to the undiscussed title, with the deliberately misleading comment "renamed without discussion". This is clearly vandalism. His solo efforts in the sports clubs categories case are no longer acceptable. By this he causes a lot of extra work for other users and causes a lot of damage. Please strictly warn the user and explain him that this behaviour is not welcome on Commons and will result in serious consequences.
Furthermore, I ask for this cfd to be closed now: Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/12/Category:FC Bayern Munich.
Ping also to User:GPSLeo, User:Jeff G., User:Jmabel. -- Chaddy (talk) 01:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Notification of the reported user: User talk:Mitte27#COM:AN/U. -- Chaddy (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- To rename a controversial name, a discussion must first take place. You yourself insisted on this in the case of FC Bayern Munich. Mitte27 (talk) 02:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Correct. Exactly that is what I have explained in my above report. If you want to move the category to the English title, you have to discuss it first. Please read my report first before commenting or even starting another edit-war. -- Chaddy (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Категория называлась так в течение 5 лет. Если вы хотите переименовать категорию, то вам нужно начать обсуждение. Mitte27 (talk) 02:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Correct. Exactly that is what I have explained in my above report. If you want to move the category to the English title, you have to discuss it first. Please read my report first before commenting or even starting another edit-war. -- Chaddy (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The renaming in 2019 also was undiscussed. That no one had noticed this for five years does not legitimate Eksperto's undiscussed renaming.
- I really don't know why you try to spread as much chaos as possible in this case. That behaviour is very unconstructive. Why can't you just work together in a cooperative manner? It's really sad that we got into this deadlock. -- Chaddy (talk) 04:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Поэтому Вам нужно было открыть обсуждение. И никаких проблем в этом нет. Mitte27 (talk) 10:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Info Mitte27 has opened another construction site: Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/12/Category:Polonia Warszawa. It is getting annoying. -- Chaddy (talk) 04:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both of you are edit warring and blaming each other here. I am blocking both of you from moving pages for two weeks. If you are not able to find a solution during this time I will extend this. Bypassing the moving block will result in a complete block. GPSLeo (talk) 07:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just want to add that the block can be lifted anytime when you pledge not to make any controversial category moves including all category moves changing the language. GPSLeo (talk) 07:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ок. Снимите с меня блокировку. Обещаю не делать переименования в ближайшие две недели, затрагивающие подобные изменения. Mitte27 (talk) 10:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, wenn jetzt alle in ihrer Muttersprache kommunizieren tu ich das eben auch: Wo genau hab ich denn einen Edit-War geführt? Ich habe ein einziges Mal verschoben, dabei habe ich die regelwidrige Verschiebung von 2019 rückgängig gemacht. Das ist nun wirklich kein Edit-War.
- Mitte27 hat das dann völlig regelwidrig rückgängig gemacht. Und dafür bekomme ich nun eine Sanktion? Das verstehe ich jetzt wirklich nicht. Und was ist mit der regelwidrigen Verschiebung von Category:Polonia Warszawa? Bleibt die jetzt einfach so? Und wieso? Bei der FC-Bayern-Kategorie wurde das - von dir selbst - anders gehandhabt. Wieso werden hier andere Maßstäbe angesetzt? -- Chaddy (talk) 16:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Du hast einen Schnelllöschantrag gestellt um die Kategorie zurückverschieben zu können. Als das mit dem berechtigten Einwand, dass das nicht ohne Diskussion geschehen kann, rückgängig gemacht wurde hast du das wieder rückgängig gemacht. Das geschah nachdem du dich hier schon bewert und die Bewertung des Falls damit eigentlich abgegeben hattest. Eine Diskussion mit der anderen Person hast du zu keinem Zeitpunkt versucht. Als dann von Mitte27 eine Diskussion geöffnet wurde hast du dich darüber beschwert, dass jetzt darüber diskutiert und eine konsensuelle Lösung gefunden werden soll. Wenn dich der Begriff Edit-War stört, kann ich es auch unkonstuktives Verhalten nennen. GPSLeo (talk) 17:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Einen SLA zu stellen ist doch kein Edit-War. Mitte27s anschließende Entfernung des SLAs war zudem klar regelwidrig - als Nichtadmin kann er nicht einfach eigenmächtig SLAs entfernen. Dazu sind die Regeln hier auf Commons doch sicher nicht so grundlegend anders als auf de-WP, oder?
- Und selbstverständlich habe ich versucht, mit Mitte27 zu diskutieren. Ich habe doch oben in meiner Meldung alle Links angegeben. Es wurde längst ausführlichst diskutiert. An einer dieser Diskussionen warst du auch selbst beteiligt. Das hier ist kein isolierter Einzelfall, es ist Teil des umfassenden Streits bzgl. der Benennung von Kats von Sportvereinen. Mitte27 weiß, dass er eine nicht konsensfähige Minderposition vertritt (lies doch mal die verlinkten Dikussionen, die sind schon ziemlich klar gegen seine Position). Dennoch handelt er, wie er handelt - das lässt nur den Schluss zu, dass er offensichtlich mit der Brechstange seine Position durchsetzen will. Das kannst du doch nicht gleichsetzem mit meinem Handeln. Ich habe lediglich versucht, das angerichtete Chaos aufzuräumen. Ich verstehe, dass das alles unübersichtlich ist, da wie immer die Diskussionen natürlich wortreich in die Länge gezogen werden. Aber bitte, lies dich da mal ein. Dann siehst du, dass du hier eine falsche Bewertung der Sachlage vorgenommen hast. Im Anschluss bitte dann meine Verschiebesperre aufheben, die ist nämlich nun wirklich unberechtigt. Ich habe keinen Editwar begangen und ich habe auch keine kontroversen Verschiebungen durchgeführt.
- Auf den Rest bist du leider nicht eingegangen: Auch schon Mitte27s Verschiebung war klar regelwidrig - wie du ja selbst schreibst, dazu ist erst eine Diskussion nötig. Wieso bleibt seine Verschiebung aber nun bestehen? Wieso bewertest du das hier anders als vor kurzem bei der FCB-Kat? Es kann doch nicht sein, dass er für seinen Regelbruch letztlich belohnt wird? Dass er eine Kat-Diskussion eröffnet hat ist sein gutes Recht. Aber zuerst bereits Fakten schaffen geht nicht. Und ja, die Kat lag 5 Jahre unter dem falschen Lemma, weil sie bereits 2019 regelwidrig verschoben wurde. Durch diese fünf Jahre wird die Regelwidrigkeit aber nicht "geheilt". Andernfalls könnte man allerhand Unsinn anstellen in wenig beobachteten Bereichen und sich Jahre später, wenn es dann doch auffliegt, darauf berufen, dass es ja Jahre lang so Bestand hatte (es also jahrelang einfach niemandem aufgefallen ist). Da sind wir uns doch einig, oder? -- Chaddy (talk) 20:48, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Diese unfaire Sperre ist übrigens auch deshalb schon ärgerlich, weil ich nun die Wikipedia Library nicht mehr nutzen kann. -- Chaddy (talk) 20:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Du hast einen Schnelllöschantrag gestellt um die Kategorie zurückverschieben zu können. Als das mit dem berechtigten Einwand, dass das nicht ohne Diskussion geschehen kann, rückgängig gemacht wurde hast du das wieder rückgängig gemacht. Das geschah nachdem du dich hier schon bewert und die Bewertung des Falls damit eigentlich abgegeben hattest. Eine Diskussion mit der anderen Person hast du zu keinem Zeitpunkt versucht. Als dann von Mitte27 eine Diskussion geöffnet wurde hast du dich darüber beschwert, dass jetzt darüber diskutiert und eine konsensuelle Lösung gefunden werden soll. Wenn dich der Begriff Edit-War stört, kann ich es auch unkonstuktives Verhalten nennen. GPSLeo (talk) 17:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just want to add that the block can be lifted anytime when you pledge not to make any controversial category moves including all category moves changing the language. GPSLeo (talk) 07:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- GPSLeo, а можно пояснить за что на меня было наложено ограничение сегодня, если я не переименовывал никакие категории в течение послендних дней и сам открыл тему для обсуждения? Без каких либо предупреждений. Снимите с меня блокировку как необоснованную. --Mitte27 (talk) 09:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- From what you wrote on the different discussions I am not convinced that you would not make a new controversial renaming without prior discussion. GPSLeo (talk) 10:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo Я не делал никаких переименований в течение последних недель. Ваша блокировка необоснованна и без каких либо предупреждений. Я не нанёс никакого вреда проекту и всегда готов обсудить спорный вопрос для чего дважды открывал темы для обсуждений в отличие от участника Chaddy. Прошу снять блокировку с меня, а я в свою очередь обещаю не делать никакие переименование в течение последующих двух недель. Mitte27 (talk) 10:13, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I will unblock you if you pledge that you do not do controversial category renames including all language changes until further notice (not just for two weeks). If you do so you will be infinitly blocked from renaming or even entirely. Same for @Chaddy from now on you need to aks the person who moved the category to move it back or you have start a CfD even if the category was moved against the guideline. GPSLeo (talk) 11:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please write if you accept these conditions. GPSLeo (talk) 11:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I will unblock you if you pledge that you do not do controversial category renames including all language changes until further notice (not just for two weeks). If you do so you will be infinitly blocked from renaming or even entirely. Same for @Chaddy from now on you need to aks the person who moved the category to move it back or you have start a CfD even if the category was moved against the guideline. GPSLeo (talk) 11:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo Я не делал никаких переименований в течение последних недель. Ваша блокировка необоснованна и без каких либо предупреждений. Я не нанёс никакого вреда проекту и всегда готов обсудить спорный вопрос для чего дважды открывал темы для обсуждений в отличие от участника Chaddy. Прошу снять блокировку с меня, а я в свою очередь обещаю не делать никакие переименование в течение последующих двух недель. Mitte27 (talk) 10:13, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- From what you wrote on the different discussions I am not convinced that you would not make a new controversial renaming without prior discussion. GPSLeo (talk) 10:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- GPSLeo, Спасибо за снятие блокировки. Также прошу удалить из моего журнала блокировок ошибочную блокировку. --Mitte27 (talk) 16:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Mitte27: Block log entries are permanent. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 19:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Разве ошибочные блокировки не должны удаляться? Во всяком случае я привык, что так делается в Русской и Украинской Википедии. Mitte27 (talk) 02:29, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Mitte27: Block log entries are permanent. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 19:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
VNC200
[edit]VNC200 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
Hello everyone, this report is for @VNC200. He is once again back with false speedy deletion nominations. Previously too he has started DRs which were flase as can be seen here. Although both cases are not same but similar. There he was warned by @Jmabel not to do this. But he seems not to understand it. Please refer to their contribution history to see what I am talking about. Pinging @Yann who blocked them twice. First time for 1 week for Edit warring and then for 1 month for Vandalism. Thank you. ShaanSenguptaTalk 03:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- With their reply to the TP notice of this discussion, it is clear that they have not understood what Jmabel told them at the DR. They were advised that if there is some issue with file name or description or anything, it can be sorted out and DR isn't required. Also tge second part of their reply You should remove it or a strict action can be taken against this file and you. I wonder if by strict action, fo they mean just it being deleted or is this a legal threat? ShaanSenguptaTalk 03:46, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, speedy deletion requests with no edit summary, so these are hard to find in his user contributions: e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Prime_Minister_Modi%27s_taking_the_oath_of_secrecy_for_the_third_time.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=976027968 - Jmabel ! talk 19:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- And I see on his user page that instead of coming here to COM:AN/U to discuss, he threatened "strict action" against Shaan Sengupta. I think this merits a block but I don't know how long. I'd appreciate if some admin who is more involved in blocking users would take this on. I usually only get involved with blocks for blatant violations or vandalism. - Jmabel ! talk 19:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see no other admin seems interested in taking this on. I'll do a three-month block here, but won't object to any other admin modifying it in either direction. - Jmabel ! talk 22:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Jmabel ! talk 22:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
Anolphat
[edit]Anolphat (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log) continues uploading obvious copyvios (photos of fashion models) after warnings by EugeneZelenko. Günther Frager (talk) 08:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for 2 weeks, all copyright violations deleted. Yann (talk) 10:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done. I deleted speedily all other uploads as fantasy maps and flags. Map of winners of beauty competition in years 2025 and 2044? Get real! Flag of en:Equestria and so on. Taivo (talk) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Remjeud
[edit]- Remjeud (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log)
Remjeud persistently uploads copyright violations, most recently two reuploads of previously deleted copyvios immediately following a warning not to do that. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done Blocked for 1 month. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)